If Toni Morrison gives the stamp of approval to Brother Ta-Nehisi Coates, then that means a lot. Ta-Nehisi Coates is brilliant and he’s a great writer. His words are eloquent. Yes, I have known about the Negro Report of 1965. Now, the Moynihan Report was created in 1965. It offered no solutions or explicit recommendations. We have to keep it 100. The report blamed not just black culture (which is ignorant since black culture is diverse). It also blamed matriarchal society (which is code language for single black mothers when matriarchal, progressive societies have existed for thousands of years) for the problems in the black community. This report has slandered single black women and the Moynihan Report has been used by conservatives and other folks who love misogynoir as a means for them to promote the myth that forcing all black people to have nuclear families will cure poverty and racism. Now, Moynihan became bitter and he allied with Nixon (who wanted to hurt black poor people as admitted in his secret tapes). Also, Moynihan even wanted black males to have jobs even if it meant that black women lose theirs in some measure. That’s sexist. Black people of both genders have the right to have a job. The view that black culture in poor communities inherently leads into pathologies is racist period. I don’t believe that black culture is inferior to other cultures.
I don’t believe that the suffering poor should be neglected. They should be empowered with resources and investments from all levels of government. The stereotypical lie of the black poor as solely seeking welfare dependency, violence, and social nihilism is the height of overt racism and classism. There is a lot of talk about personal responsibility, but the report lacked to emphasis the social responsibility of society to promote the general welfare. The conservatives talk about welfare, but in the past 40 years, the social safety net has been depleted in communities nationwide (via deindustralization, our civil rights gains being rolled back, urban renewal of the 50's and the 60's, bad trade deals, discrimination, and other neo-liberal policies from both major parties).
What can be done? The solution is diverse. Now, we do need to improve ourselves. I have no problem with self-determination and building more of our institutions. There is nothing wrong with us using grassroots programs in our community to help us as a people (from mentorships, apprenticeships, and other social actions). There is nothing wrong with advancing integrity, and a more communal spirit. Yet, I also believe that the mass incarceration state must end. There is a consensus in this country that the prison industrial complex as it is must go. It has ruined families, promoted more discrimination, and ruined so many lives of our Brothers and Sisters. There should be a nationwide increase of the minimum wage. There should be an end to the War on Drugs with alternatives like investments in drug treatment programs, ending mandatory minimum sentences, etc. Community based programs to help families must be increased.
The Kerner Report documented that the rebellions of the 1960's were caused by racism, economic deprivation, and other bad conditions in poor communities. I agree with the Kerner Report and its recommendations.
We want our families to be strengthened. There are strong nuclear, single, and extended families. A strong family doesn’t have to be a nuclear one. There should be job creation programs in especially poor areas. We have a structural problem of oppression that must be addressed. In essence, there must be federal, state, and local social policies to address racism and economic oppression. I believe that Melissa Harris Perry had a great discussion with Ta Neheisi Coates (his article on Moynihan and mass incarceration was superb) on this issue.
By Timothy
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/07/moynihans-report-fiftieth-anniversary-black-family/
http://www.ascd.org/publications/educational-leadership/apr08/vol65/num07/The-Myth-of-the-Culture-of-Poverty.aspx
http://blackagendareport.libsyn.com/2010/03
https://www.paulstreet.org/romney-obama-and-the-darwinism-that-substitutes-culture-for-genes/
https://www.blackagendareport.com/content/poor-reason-culture-still-doesn%E2%80%99t-explain-poverty
http://www.clutchmagonline.com/2015/09/do-you-know-about-the-negro-family-report-of-1965/
https://www.vox.com/2015/3/26/8253495/moynihan-report-liberal-backlash
http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2015/07/11/the-moynihan-report-50-years-of-racist-poverty-shaming/
http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2015/07/29/the-untold-story-of-the-moynihan-report/
http://bostonreview.net/us/stephen-steinberg-moynihan-report-black-families-nathan-glazer
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Wednesday, February 19, 2014
A Debate with a Person
Me: Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was an eloquent spokesman for social justice and human liberty. He expressed revolutionary statements during the duration of his life. In his 1967, THREE EVILS IN SOCIETY speech, he stated the obvious that the ghetto is a domestic colony and that power must be redistributed as a means to give the poor (both black and non black) the just means to control their own destinies.
In that same speech, Dr. King was right to say that: "...We cry out against welfare hand outs to the poor but generously approve an oil depletion allowance to make the rich, richer..." The call for economic justice and the defeat of plutocracy is the great calling of our 21st century generation.
We should never forget other heroes who stood up for justice too like Fannie Lou Hamer, Malcolm X (who by 1965 critique capitalism and he started to condemn the great evil of sexism), Septima Clark, and other brave human beings that expressed sacrifice not submissive to the status quo as a means to confront the powers that be. Ella Baker was a Sister that was a great organizer and she was the Mother of SNCC literally. Ella Baker was just as important in the struggle for human justice as Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. stood a firm stand in recognizing the truth that BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL.
So, Dr. King loved black people, he loved Africa, and he wanted black self determination to be one concept ingrained in the social consciousness of all those of black African descent. He was a strong religious leader, a socialist, a family man, and a man with great courage & great strength. It takes strength to take blows and a rock without retaliation. It took great strength to handle offensive criticism and to press on. So, we ought to express courage too in our lives to advance the ideal of the BELOVED COMMUNITY.
His last campaigns were the Poor Peoples Campaign and the Memphis Sanitation Workers' strike. Each of those campaigns was about the common people to fight for economic justice, fair wages, and the true defeat against the corrosive conditions of poverty in the world. So, we will never give up. We never gave up when we suffered the Maafa. We never gave up when the capitalist instrument of Western slavery oppressed our ancestors and we never gave up when reactionary brutes used dogs and water to assault our Brothers and our Sisters. So, this fight for a cooperative society continues on. I will maintain my core convictions of truth and creating a humane world.
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Walter Henrickson: What is "social justice" and how is it different from plain old justice? Is it really something that deserves its own ontological category? What other kind of liberty is there besides "human liberty?" Why must power be redistributed? And how does King propose that power be redistributed? And how does he pull off these schemes without compromising human liberty that he supposedly cares so much about?
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Me: Interesting questions and they deserve answers. Now, I will take this one step at a time. Social justice is a type of justice. Justice is a broad goal of liberty, respect, and great opportunities sent to people. Social justice deals with making systems of the world or institutions beneficial to humanity, especially to those who are dispossessed or extremely poor. In essence, social justice is about the creating of a just society via legitimate changes in the economy, labor, the environment, etc. It deserves its own ontological category since there are diverse concepts in the world and these concepts sometimes can’t be pigeonholed into one world or one phrase. Human liberty is a real ideal. There is no other liberty, but human liberty. Yet, black people have the right to affirm their heritage in the world. Power must be redistributed, because power has been unfairly and unjustly utilized throughout the ages.
For example, the serfs in Russia were oppressed by the CZARs. The serf rose up to make power more redistributed among them despite the unfair power grabs done by the czars for centuries in Russia. The slavery in America gave undue power to the slave owners and select corporate interests. The Civil War ended overt slavery and caused power to be redistributed from former slave owners. Many Africans redistributed power stolen from European imperialists after WWII in Ghana, Nigeria, and other nations. So, REDISTRIBUTION is not evil in every circumstance. Our wealth has been stolen by the military industrial complex, the FED, Wall Street, and other entities to be sent to foreign banks and multinational corporate interests. Wealth redistributed that has been stolen by SELECT interests is not immoral.
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. wanted an ECONOMIC BILL OF RIGHTS, wealth sent to the people that funded the Vietnam, an agency to deal with poverty, a guaranteed annual income, the funding of black institutions, and other solutions to handle this issue of oppression (with redistribution of wealth, fair taxation, ending unfair tax allowances, the ending of the Vietnam War, etc.). Human liberty is important, but liberty is not nihilism. See, reactionaries claim to want liberty, but they want the MARKET to lack accountability and to lack morality.
See, they want to lecture us on family values, but refuse to promote boundaries in the conduct of economic interests. You can’t do what you want, so the markets can’t do what it wants. There should be boundaries on POWER and revolutionary solutions in the world. There is nothing wrong with saying Black is Beautiful too and there is nothing wrong with fighting for my black interests in the world too.
-By Timothy (Me)
We should never forget other heroes who stood up for justice too like Fannie Lou Hamer, Malcolm X (who by 1965 critique capitalism and he started to condemn the great evil of sexism), Septima Clark, and other brave human beings that expressed sacrifice not submissive to the status quo as a means to confront the powers that be. Ella Baker was a Sister that was a great organizer and she was the Mother of SNCC literally. Ella Baker was just as important in the struggle for human justice as Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. stood a firm stand in recognizing the truth that BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL.
So, Dr. King loved black people, he loved Africa, and he wanted black self determination to be one concept ingrained in the social consciousness of all those of black African descent. He was a strong religious leader, a socialist, a family man, and a man with great courage & great strength. It takes strength to take blows and a rock without retaliation. It took great strength to handle offensive criticism and to press on. So, we ought to express courage too in our lives to advance the ideal of the BELOVED COMMUNITY.
His last campaigns were the Poor Peoples Campaign and the Memphis Sanitation Workers' strike. Each of those campaigns was about the common people to fight for economic justice, fair wages, and the true defeat against the corrosive conditions of poverty in the world. So, we will never give up. We never gave up when we suffered the Maafa. We never gave up when the capitalist instrument of Western slavery oppressed our ancestors and we never gave up when reactionary brutes used dogs and water to assault our Brothers and our Sisters. So, this fight for a cooperative society continues on. I will maintain my core convictions of truth and creating a humane world.
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Walter Henrickson: What is "social justice" and how is it different from plain old justice? Is it really something that deserves its own ontological category? What other kind of liberty is there besides "human liberty?" Why must power be redistributed? And how does King propose that power be redistributed? And how does he pull off these schemes without compromising human liberty that he supposedly cares so much about?
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Me: Interesting questions and they deserve answers. Now, I will take this one step at a time. Social justice is a type of justice. Justice is a broad goal of liberty, respect, and great opportunities sent to people. Social justice deals with making systems of the world or institutions beneficial to humanity, especially to those who are dispossessed or extremely poor. In essence, social justice is about the creating of a just society via legitimate changes in the economy, labor, the environment, etc. It deserves its own ontological category since there are diverse concepts in the world and these concepts sometimes can’t be pigeonholed into one world or one phrase. Human liberty is a real ideal. There is no other liberty, but human liberty. Yet, black people have the right to affirm their heritage in the world. Power must be redistributed, because power has been unfairly and unjustly utilized throughout the ages.
For example, the serfs in Russia were oppressed by the CZARs. The serf rose up to make power more redistributed among them despite the unfair power grabs done by the czars for centuries in Russia. The slavery in America gave undue power to the slave owners and select corporate interests. The Civil War ended overt slavery and caused power to be redistributed from former slave owners. Many Africans redistributed power stolen from European imperialists after WWII in Ghana, Nigeria, and other nations. So, REDISTRIBUTION is not evil in every circumstance. Our wealth has been stolen by the military industrial complex, the FED, Wall Street, and other entities to be sent to foreign banks and multinational corporate interests. Wealth redistributed that has been stolen by SELECT interests is not immoral.
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. wanted an ECONOMIC BILL OF RIGHTS, wealth sent to the people that funded the Vietnam, an agency to deal with poverty, a guaranteed annual income, the funding of black institutions, and other solutions to handle this issue of oppression (with redistribution of wealth, fair taxation, ending unfair tax allowances, the ending of the Vietnam War, etc.). Human liberty is important, but liberty is not nihilism. See, reactionaries claim to want liberty, but they want the MARKET to lack accountability and to lack morality.
See, they want to lecture us on family values, but refuse to promote boundaries in the conduct of economic interests. You can’t do what you want, so the markets can’t do what it wants. There should be boundaries on POWER and revolutionary solutions in the world. There is nothing wrong with saying Black is Beautiful too and there is nothing wrong with fighting for my black interests in the world too.
-By Timothy (Me)
Monday, September 9, 2013
A Great Conservation with the Sister Courtney
Courtney: Hey truth. These pics are a riot. :)
Me: I am back. Hello to You Courtney. Yes, those pictures are adorable. :)
Courtney: Hello Truth2436577 I'm still laughing at those two pigtails that 318 is rocking in her avatar. lmaoo!!!
Me: Those are some old school pigtails. I have not seen those since the late 1980's and the early 1990's.
Courtney: and yet, I would take those two pigtails any day, over having to sit for eons while my mom braided my hair with seemed like a thousand little braids. lol
Me: LOL. How long did your mom braid your hair. I heard that it could take hours.
:)
Courtney: it always seemed to come when I was outside playing with everyone, here she come calling, talking about come inside so I can do your hair. ugh!!! like an hour or hour and a half if she was moisturizing my scalp. lmao. I would be so mad.
Me: Well, a mama has to do what a mama has to do Sista.
Mama has to handle that business. God bless your Mother.
LOL.
Courtney: you boys were always so lucky that you never ever had to deal with that. lol. but seriously, she was still doing my hair here and there well into my 20's. I would ask her too. :)
Me: Aww that is so Sweet of your Mother. :)
As a Brother, I only wash my hair once a month except for the summer, because of obvious reasons. I wash my hair 2-3 times a month during the Summertime.
Courtney: Thanks. So I have to ask, do you have dreads?
Me: No, I am a low cut haired Brother. I can grow my hair long though. I have my distinctive goatee. I have a mustache too. :) I love my goatee since it represents my individuality as a man. Whether we Brothers wear dreads or not, we are just expressing our freedom from cultural colonialism as Brother Malcolm X said many decades ago. All in all, I love to learn information and I love to kick my flavor and my rhythm no doubt Sister. :)
Courtney: uh ohh. you have a carl weathers mustache? lol im just playing. goatees are great. beards and goatees are great. :)Anyway, nothing wrong with individuality. :) Im all for it.
Me: LOL. You are too funny. You got jokes, but I like it Sista. I like your humor here. We can be loose and enjoy life as a means to improve our immunity and be further inspired to fight for truth. I dig your swagger Sister on the real. :)
Courtney: I'm glad you get it. Some people on here like the warden likes to make a mountain out of a mole hill. lol. anyway. no problem, Its saturday and it seems pleasant on disqus today so far ,with everyone. :) With Blackheywood , you and edud01 still teaching truth, :) I was not aware that I have swagger. lol
Me:
Right. Life is too short. So, we should live our lives in balance filled with humor including fun and doing the serious work of helping our people. Well, you do have that swag even you did not realize it at first. It is what it is. :) LOL.
Thank you Sister for mentioning Brothers like us teaching the truth. So many Sisters are teaching the truth as well like you, Immyskin318, Erica, Dandelion, Evette, KJ, and so many others. There is nothing like inspiration, positive vibes, and true LOVE existing in the world too. :). I am so glad to communicate with a great, wonderful soul like you. I am so glad to enjoy your insights on various issues and themes of life. Since our communication signifies the fact that Brothers and Sisters can be allies (with our similarities and differences). We can unite, laugh, and be inspired to do what is right. Me as a black man and you as a black woman are still fighting for our liberation. I appreciate you and I respect you as a full human being. :)
Courtney: I agree. These people that you and I are mentioning, and a few more are the reason why I come on here.... So thank you. Your vibe is so much appreciated by us. :) I respect you as a full human being and the others as well. It's the kind of energy that we should strive for with each other but when those that try to disrupt that vibe, come at us, they will be dealt with accordingly as well... The people that we've mentioned have not started anything to warrant the disrespect that some on here try to give out. They fail to understand that we are all well balanced and can deal on many levels when needed. :)
Me: I agree too. This is a great conversation. God Bless you. :)
Courtney: Thank you and likewise. It's finally cooling off outside. It was scorching today. :(
Me: Well, Fall is Coming Sista. Don't fret, the end of the scorching is upon us. Fall is like a cooler season. :)
Courtney: I am looking forward to it for sure. Fall is beautiful, especially with the color changes of trees. And the weather is perfect.
Me: Yeah, Tell me about it, Sweetie. There is something special about Fall. What is strange though is the day light saving time, which occurs in the autumn season. I live in Virginia and it gets dark in like 5:30 pm. EST everyday during the Fall, which is strange. The yellowish leaves and orange like leaves bring out the beauty of fall. The weather is great.
Courtney: I know what you mean. I was raised in NY and you are right about it getting dark so early,The fall makes you so aware that things gradually go away,(different form of life) only to await the arrival of new come spring. :) Nothing like the cool air of fall and wearing light sweaters and boots and no jacket. :)
Me: LOL. Fall is great. I wear my hoodie during the time. I wear my jacket too in the Fall. I do not need boots since it doesn't snow that much in SE Virginia. During the late fall, I wear my large coat with designs on it. Fall is a special time since you feel a closeness with loved ones, family, and friends. I relax more about life. Also, in the end of fall is when the real cold air comes in. Yes, Fall is special. :)
Courtney: OH. I would of thought that it snowed a lot there.Hoodies are an essential piece of clothing to have. But growing up in NY, I use to love to see the 14 plus inches when we did get them. I would just light up seeing that.. :) NOw, digging out the car was something different but so much fun to drive in with rear wheel. lol when I didn't get stuck. lol I swear, if I ever win the lottery, i'm mo st definitely am going to buy a serious log house in the mountains somewhere, with a bear skin rug, in front of a fire place. Just to get away. :)
Me: In Central Virginia, Northern Virginia, and Western Virginia, snow can come down a lot during the Winter time. In SE Virginia, snow doesn't acuminate in very high degrees at all. The rest of your comments are funny. LOL. At least for the time being, you do not have to experience that much snow. :) In New York, snow can be vicious at times.
Courtney: Understood. Virginia , is pretty big. :) Yes ,that kind of snow, is not for the faint of heart. lol and still, there are places that get it worst than that. smh. As long as I have a mug of hot cocoa, family and some board games, a good movie ,all is good. :)
Me: Well, New York is a pretty large state too where real folks live in (or come from). :) I live in SE Virginia (where it has a moderate climate. It is not too hot or not too cold, except during the Summer). Right, large snow is no joke. You just listed the great formula for how human beings can relax when terrible snow falls on a community. I remember drinking hot cocoa back in the late 1990's when I was a teenager. Everybody loves hot cocoa too. :)
Courtney: Never to old for hot cocoa and because we are grown, you can spice it up a bit. lol You are right, people don't realize just how huge NY really is. They think Ny, and they automatically picture the 5 boroughs. lol. Some places in NY are extremely country. You have your suburban areas as well as rural areas. Never been to Virginia per say, just through parts of it.I heard it's great for military families.
Me: Indeed. :)
New York is large and it is diverse culturally and environmentally. NY has beaches and mountain ranges as well. Yes, in Virginia we have the suburbs of Northern Virginia and the rural locations of Southampton County or other counties. Virginia is filled with military families. VA has a strong military culture. I am used to it. There has ROTC in full effect when I was high school. A lot of sweet classmates that I know were in ROTC including the military like the Nice Sister named Taheinish (She is a real human being and she is a very hard worker indeed). Many of the VA families have relatives involved in the military too. Yet, this doesn't mean that I lack insight in comprehending the world picture. I am still a conscious Black Man with my own independent thoughts just like you as a gracious, strong, and sweet Black Woman. My mother loves rural areas and my father loves more urban settings. I have been to both settings before.
Courtney: VA was on the list of possibilities to move to because of the military but decided it was best for my family to be near more family. And you are right,does not mean we do not understand the bigger picture. Its great to know that you have real human beings surrounding and interacting,Your parents are sweet and I'm quite sure they compromised a lot . :) Both of mine are from Louisiana but moved to ny after graduating college. I feel like growing up in Ny but having been taught southern principals made me a well adjusted.So, I like my home to be more suburban,rural, but far and close enough to the city settings. :)
Me:
Indeed.
At the end of the day, you have to do what is best for you and your family. It is your life, Sister. :)
We both know great friends and other great human beings that we know in our lives from the past and the present. They have shaped us, inspired us , and gave us respect as human beings. I like medium sized city surroundings to reside in, but I love rural locations as well. Folks from the rural areas have a down to Earth personality. They are strong and hardworking in their fundamental characteristics. The rural human beings represents a large portion of the real heart and soul of America. My parents did sacrifice a lot for me. I have my father's interests in politics including his masculine nature and I have my mother's sensitivity (and her humanitarian nature). I have relatives that live in rural locations as well, so it is what it is. Also, your great Nature is a product of your wonderful parents too. So, you should be glad of existing with your great human character, your great intelligence, your humor, and your great loving Nature. :) Everyone here in this forum is blessed by you since you are a real Blessing. I will always love your gifts in the Universe. All of the real folks in this forum care for you and love you as a wonderful human being :)
Saturday, February 9, 2013
Tuesday, October 30, 2012
On Republicans
These are my answers to a great person who wanted questions answered on politics. This person's questions are the following:
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My answers are the following:
Your first questions involve many controversies. The reality is that many decent black men have children with decent black women. I have male black relatives that have children with wonderful black women. Thugs are thugs and they make up of only a minority of the black community globally. Most black women aren’t into thugs, just men. Thugs in a lower socioeconomic background usually have children with those in the same socioeconomic background. We can talk about thugs all we want (I don’t agree with the thugs’ actions. Some folks obsess with thugs as a means to slyly demonize black women and I abhor that). Yet, if we want solutions, then we have to put the money where our mouths are. We have to go and work in independent programs to help our people, especially our people who are poor. If a person is a decent black man, he doesn’t need to be a fake Nino Brown, but he can just be a man and handle business (and the women will respect you for it). Also, most black people understand the difference between a good black person and bad black person. Western society glamorizes evil on many evils (as classifying bad as righteous or vice versa). Henceforth, some black people try to imitate wickedness as a means to confirm to mainstream Western society (which I see sometimes in my city).
Many black people ignore racism, because some black people are apathetic, some deny it, and others try to minimize discrimination today. Although, most black people know what time it is and know who the enemy is. People say the words about today’s Republicans being massively different from yesteryear for numerous reasons. Republicans back in the day were more progressive (or they wanted human rights to be given to humanity or they desired more government intervention in order for problems to be solved) than the Democrats (back then, they were allied with opposing civil rights policies in the 19th century). It flipped in the 1960’s since the former Dixiecrats moved increasingly into the Republican Party (in response to the Voting Rights Act & the changing of American society. America is more progressive than decades ago). Nixon’s Southern Strategy sealed the deal in allowing many racists into the Republican Party. Some black churches remain Republican, because they want to hold onto a conservative religious agenda. Many black religious centers are socially conservative, while economically liberal. Therefore, to some churches, the Republicans' supposed conservative ideologies appeal to these religious leaders. I think most black people love religion, humanity, relationships, and black history. It’s just that the mainstream media expresses nefarious stereotypes against black people.
Big corporate interests present the lie that most black people lack empathy or lack emotional maturity. Black Republicans exist for numerous reasons. Some Black Republicans like Clarence Thomas and even Mia Love (I disagree with them obviously) feel that some in the black community harbor hatred toward them because of their eclectic political orientation. They are Republicans as a means to feel at home culturally & politically, but they are still oppressed under the same oppressor. Some black Republicans are religiously conservative and others believe in Austrian economics and find the Republican Party appealing for economic justifications. Some blacks are Republicans since they want some old school type of living to be the norm in American society. Some Black Republicans just hate their own black heritage since let’s keep it real and funky right about now.
-By Timothy (Me)
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LBJ was one of the Democrats who opposed the Civil Rights act in the 50's. When he signed it into law in '65 he is also quoted as saying " By signing this bills we have made a built in voter block that will never leave us " . And you haven't and what's it gotten you? Destroyed family units, poverty, welfare, murders, ghettos, unemployment and nothing in return. Be a good slave and vote for the Democrats, who are still the slavemasters.
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Your words have been the same words that have been used in order to maintain laissez faire economic policies, which don’t work to build up society comprehensively. Also, brothers and sisters here aren’t brainwashed. I am an Independent brother. Many sincere black people are Democrats, Republicans, and Independents. Just because a black person is more progressive or more conservative doesn’t mean that that brother or sister are some slave to either of the 2major parties. We know what Dr. King would think on some issues, because we show you his quotes, ideas, and ideologies. You hate it since many of Dr. King’s words in opposition to war, in promoting a radical redistribution of economic and political power, his critiques on capitalism, etc. goes against your Tea Party dogma. I think Alveda King is a very sweet, intelligent sister that loves black people. I think she is wrong in allying with reactionaries like Glen Beck though. I believe that she is wrong on some issues (like on economics). Republicans regularly inject race in their campaigns in calling blacks to have personal responsibility when most blacks accept personal responsibility. They inject race via their controversial comments (from Santorum, Gingrich, etc.). This doesn’t apply to all Tea Party and all GOP members, but some of them. Where is the modern evidence (in 2012) of Al Sharpton and Jesse showing extreme racism? Al Sharpton supports voting rights; he opposes police brutality, and wants freedoms. You can disagree with him on many things, but on those issues, he isn’t presenting racism on those topics. Al Sharpton expressed regret on some of his errors of the past. I don’t support Sharpton on every issue, but he is better than an O’Reilly or a Limbaugh type. Jackson is rather not in the spotlight as he was in times past.
The black community is awaked on many levels. Every day, people in the black community are having voter registering drives, fighting for education, fighting crime, promoting the beauty of the black African phenotype, and fighting against war. Collectively, my black people are fighting for improvement and justice period. You just deny that since you want black people to accept 19th century thinking in a near 22nd century world. Also, no one here worships Democrats. No party is perfect, but we realize the massive imperfections in the GOP (from advancing bellicose war mongering to supporting anti-voting policies). You want all Americans to accept your philosophy. You may want all Americans to do well, but you want blacks and all people to accept your reactionary views. You can’t have your wish since people have the right to disagree with you in a cogent, tolerable fashion. We don’t need privatization of all resources in the world to be free. We don’t need theocracy to be free. We don’t need austerity, xenophobia, and Islamophobia to be free. We just need human rights to spread unto all backgrounds in order to be free. We need both public and private resources in order for us to be free. The mainstream media is dominated by corporate/CFR interests, so a real person doesn’t unconditionally trust the corporate-sponsored mainstream media at all. You have the right to be a Tea Party adherent and I have the right to accept individual/private power and collective/public power to help society.
By Timothy (Me)
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54 minutes agoMy Response:
This is fun. You know that the game isn't over yet. Well, it's about to be. I don’t misinterpret your words. Your words are rather transparent. You blame black people for rejecting the GOP mostly and then you try to use historical revisionism and slick tactics in trying to force guilt unto black people in trying to make them Tea Party adherents. It won't work because doubling down on trickled down will not massively stop poverty at all. Just because Al Sharpton talks about race on MSNBC, doesn’t mean it’s an example of him expressing racism. Dr. King talked about race in exposing racism. Also, Sharpton’s words’ about voter suppression, evils in the political system, and exposing corporate corruption are accurate. You cite no examples of Sharpton playing the race card in 2012 explicitly. Racism and discrimination are ever real in society and you just deny it. You cite no evidence on how Sharpton doesn’t support voting rights, real freedoms, and ending police brutality. I didn’t say that the man is perfect. Supporting Barack Obama is his right. I believe the President is right on some issues and dead wrong on others. I don’t just don’t have a hatred of the man. Folks who hate the man have immorally denied his citizenship, called him lazy, questioned his intellect, and slandered his name (and his family like the coward Glen Beck. Beck had to apologize for disrespecting the President's daughter). Some GOP people even disrespected the beautiful, intelligent Sister First Lady Michelle Obama. This isn't representative of all GOP members or all Tea Party individuals though. The anti-voter ID laws are bigger than possessing an ID, which you already know. These anti-human rights laws decrease the days in how people can achieve early voting, many people have been falsely eliminated from voting rolls, and some of these laws have been struck down by courts all across America. The Voter ID laws force people to have a government issued photo ID when other documents are sufficient in order for folks to vote. Studies prove that some of these laws will negatively effect the young and the poor. Millions of U.S. citizens don't have a government issued photo ID in the realm of 11% of all U.S. citizens.
Many pro-Republican groups put up inaccurate billboards about voting laws as well. Black people have victories in Ohio and other places too on this issue. Studies prove that voter fraud presently is very minuscule which doesn’t make it necessary for these oppressive laws to exist in the first place. Also, not one reasonable person wants non-U.S. citizen human beings to vote in American elections. Where did you get that perception from? These people who are non-U.S. citizens are still human beings and they should be afforded equal respect. Why do you cite Rodney King and Denny? No one is talking about both men here. Most black people don’t agree with what happened to both of them. Your implication that some blacks massively lack empathy of the suffering of non-blacks is telling. People are talking about Dr. King. 2 wrong don’t make a right, but the white supremacist system exists (as exposed by crammasters and other qualified black scholars). You reactionaries ignore white supremacy and racism since you want to live in your world of trying to make black people docile & submissive under your way of thinking when dealing with white people. The Patriot Act and other unjust laws deprive our freedoms. The TSA abusive acts deprive our freedoms. The evil Drug War policies and the stop and frisk situation deprive our freedoms as well. Documented voter suppression in recent times deprive our human freedoms. We have the right to promote our civil liberties period. Also, slavery is still here in the world despite it being banned overtly & legally in America. Native Americans living today didn’t experience the colonists oppressing them, but they received compensation in recent years. The legacy of racism still exists in our time and black people have the right to oppose oppression (whether it's from police brutality to discrimination). Just because you don’t own a slave doesn’t make it a justification for you to refuse to expose racism or ignore white supremacy.
Injustices still reign in society like a 6 year old sister being killed by a crooked police officer in Detroit. Also, you cite the imperfections in other cities as a means to blame blacks collectively, which is ignorance. These problems are caused by socioeconomic problems, laissez faire economic problems (these economic policies increased the debt during the Bush years. What people in Chicago need isn't your way of privatization of all resources, but a holistic approach of both public and private services in making reforms in the city. You have to spend money in investments in fighting for change, not just individual initiatives), the Drug War, etc. not by the essence of black humanity. There are those in Chicago fighting for reforms and you discount or minimize their efforts. Also, many mostly Republican areas in the Deep South have poverty, record divorces, educational problems, meth addiction, and other problems. My people don’t make up most of the pedophiles, serial killers, corporate criminals, and imperialists in America. Guess which people? Also, many black people have made great accomplishments in life. Yet, they made it by working collectively too. You never made it on your own solitary. You needed assistance sometimes collectively. The power of the individual and the power of the collective are parts of the black African cultural tradition. My attitude has nothing to do with all evils in the world. Also, most black people voted for President Barack Obama because John McCain was seen as more reactionary. McCain talked about possibly bombing Iran. Most young people voted for the President in 2008 and most people voting for Republicans are mostly white people (that doesn't mean that all white people are racist or all black people are racist for mostly voting for the President). Many black people in Maryland voted for more non-black Democratic candidates before (and in places across America). I don’t worship Democrats and to assume otherwise is deception on your part. I cite the errors of the Democratic Dixiecrats in this very forum. I am an Independent politically.
My actions of believing in truth, opposing globalization, and rejecting austerity are clear. I refuted the Runaway Slave documentary many months ago in print. Your Tea Party rhetoric (and the Tea Party is funded by the Koch Brothers and other corporate interests) is fantasy since war mongering, massive austerity cuts, scapegoating, promoting the interests of the 1 percent, and xenophobia aren’t the essence of the Dream. The Dream is about us showing respect for humanity of every background and not to scapegoat black people collectively for every social ill in America. Runaway Slave won't expose how the New Deal decreased poverty, how the poverty rate was cut massively from 1945-1975 via progressive action, or how Social Security is a very successful program. It won't expose NSM 200 and it won't expose how Dr. King wanted a guaranteed annual income for all Americans. Your denial of white supremacy and the oppression against human beings in society is telling. I have a great perception of myself and my black people. I do believe that my people can achieve great things, but I also believe in exposing white supremacy at the same time. I believe in the Dream and I believe in justice. You can't have peace without justice.
Checkmate.
By Timothy
http://truthseeker2473.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-vice-presidential-debate-and-other.html
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Like always, some of you libertarian types are overly sensitive over a simple debate.
Your words shows your immaturity and you would not say those words to my face like a man, so cut the act out. Ad hominem attacks in the Net is really silly. Compassion is not garbage. It is holy, real, and it is part of a real human endeavor not a Charles Dickens view. I have no issue with printing debt free money immediately to assist the poor at all. The rest of your words are silliness. Eugenics have been advanced by reactionaries for years. Progressives have opposed eugenics before you were born. Austrian Economic leaders agreed with extremism for decades. Austrian economics leader Lew Rockwell is known for hating civil rights laws. Austrian economic leader Mises believed in gender inequality and the racial inferiority of those of color. He was wrong. Austrian economic leader Murray Rothard hated the poor and those on welfare. Some Austrian economic leaders are neo-Confederate. The Austrians' hatred of any general welfare is expressed by your words. Reactionaries and racists have advanced eugenics, debt money, unjust wars, technocratic aims, aristocracy, the Maafa, imperialism, etc. for centuries. I reject eugenics and other evils, so that guilt by association trick won't work on me.
Altruism is superior to debased hatred and compassion is better than sophomoric anger displayed by you. I am older, so I know how to describe my arguments without emotionalism and a petty, immature attitude. You are right that the poor should have a fair stake at budget negotiations and ought to have immediate economic relief. Yet, you subscribe to a scapegoating of those on welfare when economic inequality is one reason for our issues. We need a comprehensive solution in our situation. I am not a slave to anyone. I am not a slave to economic social Darwinism or a false view that free markets are God. God is God not a free market. The reality is that copyrights, legal protections, and other real regulations are in the market for a reason (to enhance competition and to protect the rights of all human beings). No group of men can understand all facets of the economy. Yet, human citizens can use policies to make the economy grow better, which has occurred in American history (via investments, eliminating fraud including waste, and having real economic solutions). I disagree with a privatized central bank. I do believed in Congress handling our economic affairs though as cited by the Constitution. I respect public investments as well.
The mistake of the some the FED's policies means that an alternative ought to be made, not have a pessimistic view of the world and just give up. Human beings have the right to fight and to achieve great things via effort, intelligence, and persistence.
-By Timothy (Me)
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