On Republicans

These are my answers to a great person who wanted questions answered on politics. This person's questions are the following:

Timsomor11 hours ago

Mysteries Of Modern Times (Black Addition):
1. Why is it that thugs are chosen by women to have babies with instead of men who will do right by them?
2. When did being the "Bad Person" become good to Blacks and being "Good Person" become bad to blacks?
3. What can't the average black person realize or identify they have just been confronted with racism or discrimination as it's used today?
4. The difference between The Republican Party then and now, and the difference between the Democratic parties then and now (Used in by some black repubs in statements like "Lincoln was a Republican who freed slave!")?
5. Why some black churches remained largely Republican, as the party showed what if stood for by vivid example?
6. Why some black double down on religion and away from humanity, relationships, and black history.
7. Why are there Black Republicans, even seeing how the party have publicly displayed it's opinion of blacks by example.
If anyone responds, think of things from example or what you have seen.

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My answers are the following:


Your first questions involve many controversies. The reality is that many decent black men have children with decent black women. I have male black relatives that have children with wonderful black women. Thugs are thugs and they make up of only a minority of the black community globally. Most black women aren’t into thugs, just men. Thugs in a lower socioeconomic background usually have children with those in the same socioeconomic background. We can talk about thugs all we want (I don’t agree with the thugs’ actions. Some folks obsess with thugs as a means to slyly demonize black women and I abhor that). Yet, if we want solutions, then we have to put the money where our mouths are. We have to go and work in independent programs to help our people, especially our people who are poor. If a person is a decent black man, he doesn’t need to be a fake Nino Brown, but he can just be a man and handle business (and the women will respect you for it). Also, most black people understand the difference between a good black person and bad black person. Western society glamorizes evil on many evils (as classifying bad as righteous or vice versa). Henceforth, some black people try to imitate wickedness as a means to confirm to mainstream Western society (which I see sometimes in my city).

Many black people ignore racism, because some black people are apathetic, some deny it, and others try to minimize discrimination today. Although, most black people know what time it is and know who the enemy is. People say the words about today’s Republicans being massively different from yesteryear for numerous reasons. Republicans back in the day were more progressive (or they wanted human rights to be given to humanity or they desired more government intervention in order for problems to be solved) than the Democrats (back then, they were allied with opposing civil rights policies in the 19th century). It flipped in the 1960’s since the former Dixiecrats moved increasingly into the Republican Party (in response to the Voting Rights Act & the changing of American society. America is more progressive than decades ago). Nixon’s Southern Strategy sealed the deal in allowing many racists into the Republican Party. Some black churches remain Republican, because they want to hold onto a conservative religious agenda. Many black religious centers are socially conservative, while economically liberal. Therefore, to some churches, the Republicans' supposed conservative ideologies appeal to these religious leaders. I think most black people love religion, humanity, relationships, and black history. It’s just that the mainstream media expresses nefarious stereotypes against black people.

Big corporate interests present the lie that most black people lack empathy or lack emotional maturity. Black Republicans exist for numerous reasons. Some Black Republicans like Clarence Thomas and even Mia Love (I disagree with them obviously) feel that some in the black community harbor hatred toward them because of their eclectic political orientation. They are Republicans as a means to feel at home culturally & politically, but they are still oppressed under the same oppressor. Some black Republicans are religiously conservative and others believe in Austrian economics and find the Republican Party appealing for economic justifications. Some blacks are Republicans since they want some old school type of living to be the norm in American society. Some Black Republicans just hate their own black heritage since let’s keep it real and funky right about now.

-By Timothy (Me)


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vonveezil1 hour agoin reply to Timsomor

LBJ was one of the Democrats who opposed the Civil Rights act in the 50's. When he signed it into law in '65 he is also quoted as saying " By signing this bills we have made a built in voter block that will never leave us " . And you haven't and what's it gotten you? Destroyed family units, poverty, welfare, murders, ghettos, unemployment and nothing in return. Be a good slave and vote for the Democrats, who are still the slavemasters.

My Response:

truthseeker24365770 minutes agoin reply to vonveezil

You are too old to believe in reactionary propaganda or fairy tales. No one said that LBJ was perfect, but he did the right thing to sign civil rights laws in the 1960's. He was right on that issue. To extend human freedoms that relates to voting and civil rights is a great thing. I am an Independent brother. Just because a brother or a sister is a Democrat doesn't mean that individual is some mental slave to Democrat "slavemasters." Blacks from across the political spectrum possess reasonable insight and intellectual freedom to greatly evaluate issues. That old time 19th century rhetoric is silly and offensive. The GOP is responsible for the Patriot Act, the 2007 economic recession, the War on Drugs, the Iraq War, the Southern Strategy, and other evils in our society. Both parties aren't perfect and you are trying to shame blacks to join a political party (presumptively the GOP) that wants our social contract to be nearly eliminated. It won't work. Also, your buddy Ronald Reagan said in 1967 said that he agrees with discrimination as it pertains to housing. Your buddy Mitt Romney said that the government can't create a single job, which is a total lie. Congress itself is made up of government jobs including folks working at post offices nationally.

The poor and middle class pay state, local, and other forms of taxation even (so, these people collectively aren't lazy or lack personal responsibility). Not all family structures in the black community are ruined. Welfare is mostly used by white Americans and welfare is necessary for those that need it (it should not be used for anyone). The poverty rate decreased by the progressive programs from 1945-1975. Ghettoes were originally created by our oppressors as a means to suppress revolution & maintain the status quo. It wasn't invented by blacks collectively at all. Murder from genocides in multiple continents have been done by white supremacists spanning centuries. Other problems that you cite are a product of Reaganomics, trickled down economics, and socioeonomic problems not progressive freedoms at all.


-By Timothy (Me)

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vonveezil2 hours agoin reply to truthseeker2436577

The desperation is in the White House. There's a steamroller coming down the street and you all are so brainwashed you won't even see it rolling over you. It's always something to hear how blacks THINK MLK would say or think. You have no idea what he would do or say. You're only guessing and guessing along the lines that the Democrats, Corrupt Media, and the race baiters/hustlers ( aka Al and Jesse) tell you.What do you think of Alveda King? I'm a Tea Party member. I have never seen one time where race was injected into anything. Many blacks are also in the TP. The media says its racist. Over 600 events and one incident of racism and that person was thrown out of the event. Every event Sharpton or Jackson put on is total racism. You keep on walking round with blinders on. One day the black community will wake up to the horrors perpetrated against it by the Democrats. I hope its soon, so the black community can finally lift itself up , instead of being held back and down. See, I want ALL Americans to do well.
Go to YTube
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My Response:

Your words have been the same words that have been used in order to maintain laissez faire economic policies, which don’t work to build up society comprehensively. Also, brothers and sisters here aren’t brainwashed. I am an Independent brother. Many sincere black people are Democrats, Republicans, and Independents. Just because a black person is more progressive or more conservative doesn’t mean that that brother or sister are some slave to either of the 2major parties. We know what Dr. King would think on some issues, because we show you his quotes, ideas, and ideologies. You hate it since many of Dr. King’s words in opposition to war, in promoting a radical redistribution of economic and political power, his critiques on capitalism, etc. goes against your Tea Party dogma. I think Alveda King is a very sweet, intelligent sister that loves black people. I think she is wrong in allying with reactionaries like Glen Beck though. I believe that she is wrong on some issues (like on economics). Republicans regularly inject race in their campaigns in calling blacks to have personal responsibility when most blacks accept personal responsibility. They inject race via their controversial comments (from Santorum, Gingrich, etc.). This doesn’t apply to all Tea Party and all GOP members, but some of them. Where is the modern evidence (in 2012) of Al Sharpton and Jesse showing extreme racism? Al Sharpton supports voting rights; he opposes police brutality, and wants freedoms. You can disagree with him on many things, but on those issues, he isn’t presenting racism on those topics. Al Sharpton expressed regret on some of his errors of the past. I don’t support Sharpton on every issue, but he is better than an O’Reilly or a Limbaugh type. Jackson is rather not in the spotlight as he was in times past.

The black community is awaked on many levels. Every day, people in the black community are having voter registering drives, fighting for education, fighting crime, promoting the beauty of the black African phenotype, and fighting against war. Collectively, my black people are fighting for improvement and justice period. You just deny that since you want black people to accept 19th century thinking in a near 22nd century world. Also, no one here worships Democrats. No party is perfect, but we realize the massive imperfections in the GOP (from advancing bellicose war mongering to supporting anti-voting policies). You want all Americans to accept your philosophy. You may want all Americans to do well, but you want blacks and all people to accept your reactionary views. You can’t have your wish since people have the right to disagree with you in a cogent, tolerable fashion. We don’t need privatization of all resources in the world to be free. We don’t need theocracy to be free. We don’t need austerity, xenophobia, and Islamophobia to be free. We just need human rights to spread unto all backgrounds in order to be free. We need both public and private resources in order for us to be free. The mainstream media is dominated by corporate/CFR interests, so a real person doesn’t unconditionally trust the corporate-sponsored mainstream media at all. You have the right to be a Tea Party adherent and I have the right to accept individual/private power and collective/public power to help society.

By Timothy (Me)


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vonveezil54 minutes agoin reply to truthseeker2436577

This is fun. I do believe like normal though, you misinterpret my way of thinking and lump it in with whatever dogma you choose to make it. When Sharpton is on everyday on MSDNC, it's all about race with him. One can play the race card too often that when there's real racism it's like the boy who cried wolf. No one believes him anymore. You said" Al Sharpton supports voting rights; he opposes police brutality, and wants
freedoms. You can disagree with him on many things, but on those issues, he isn’t
presenting racism on those topics." Really? If he supports freedom then why does he support such a man as Barack Obama, who is trying very hard to strip freedoms from every American , including blacks. Do you really think that asking someone to prove who they are when voting is suppression? Now please tell me that you and everyone doesn't use some form of ID to bank, buy liquor, cash a check or just about anything one does...you need a picture ID. But for one of the most sacred rights we Americans have , you don't need an ID. To get into an Obama campaign stop , you MUST show 2 forms of ID and have a picture ID. This assumption that voter ID is suppressive is a joke. The only reason the Democrats and Al fight it so hard is because then the illegals won't be able to vote.Which they shouldn't be able to do because they are not citizens. I oppose police brutality also, since I was beaten badly while handcuffed behind my back by 2 officers in an elevator. Rodney King didn't deserve his throttling but Denny didn't deserve his throttling either. You say he wants freedoms. What freedoms are you being deprived of? Is there one thing in this country that a black man or woman can't achieve? No, there isn't. I live in the 21st century and you telling me that I long for the days of slavery is totally wrong. No one here at all has ever been subjected to slavery. Not one of you. I have never owned a slave and never want to own a slave. I'm a proud American, and you all are Americans also. I own my own business and do work on many black peoples homes. Black peoples money is just as green as whites, Asians, or Latinos money. You fight for education but here in Chicago 48% of blacks drop out of school. 440+murders , mostly black on black. Remember this is not a Republican area , it's a total Democrat area. You say you're striving for freedoms that you already have. It's just your attitude and mindset that keeps all of you from becoming whatever you want to become. According to most polls 91% of all blacks are going to vote for Obama and the Democrats. So you telling me, that in '08 when 98% of blacks voted for Obama, that was just a mirage? Not to many blacks jumped ship it would appear. You say you don't worship the Democrats but actions speak louder than words and the overall actions of the black community derail you affirmation. Look up this movie called Runaway Slave. It's being offered on many cable networks as a ppv. $4.99. Order it and sit down with your family and friends and watch it. Or are you to far gone? Nothing keeps you from being all you can be in this country. Nothing, except your own perceptions of yourselves.

My Response:

This is fun. You know that the game isn't over yet. Well, it's about to be. I don’t misinterpret your words. Your words are rather transparent. You blame black people for rejecting the GOP mostly and then you try to use historical revisionism and slick tactics in trying to force guilt unto black people in trying to make them Tea Party adherents. It won't work because doubling down on trickled down will not massively stop poverty at all. Just because Al Sharpton talks about race on MSNBC, doesn’t mean it’s an example of him expressing racism. Dr. King talked about race in exposing racism. Also, Sharpton’s words’ about voter suppression, evils in the political system, and exposing corporate corruption are accurate. You cite no examples of Sharpton playing the race card in 2012 explicitly. Racism and discrimination are ever real in society and you just deny it. You cite no evidence on how Sharpton doesn’t support voting rights, real freedoms, and ending police brutality. I didn’t say that the man is perfect. Supporting Barack Obama is his right. I believe the President is right on some issues and dead wrong on others. I don’t just don’t have a hatred of the man. Folks who hate the man have immorally denied his citizenship, called him lazy, questioned his intellect, and slandered his name (and his family like the coward Glen Beck. Beck had to apologize for disrespecting the President's daughter). Some GOP people even disrespected the beautiful, intelligent Sister First Lady Michelle Obama. This isn't representative of all GOP members or all Tea Party individuals though. The anti-voter ID laws are bigger than possessing an ID, which you already know. These anti-human rights laws decrease the days in how people can achieve early voting, many people have been falsely eliminated from voting rolls, and some of these laws have been struck down by courts all across America. The Voter ID laws force people to have a government issued photo ID when other documents are sufficient in order for folks to vote. Studies prove that some of these laws will negatively effect the young and the poor. Millions of U.S. citizens don't have a government issued photo ID in the realm of 11% of all U.S. citizens.

Many pro-Republican groups put up inaccurate billboards about voting laws as well. Black people have victories in Ohio and other places too on this issue. Studies prove that voter fraud presently is very minuscule which doesn’t make it necessary for these oppressive laws to exist in the first place. Also, not one reasonable person wants non-U.S. citizen human beings to vote in American elections. Where did you get that perception from? These people who are non-U.S. citizens are still human beings and they should be afforded equal respect. Why do you cite Rodney King and Denny? No one is talking about both men here. Most black people don’t agree with what happened to both of them. Your implication that some blacks massively lack empathy of the suffering of non-blacks is telling. People are talking about Dr. King. 2 wrong don’t make a right, but the white supremacist system exists (as exposed by crammasters and other qualified black scholars). You reactionaries ignore white supremacy and racism since you want to live in your world of trying to make black people docile & submissive under your way of thinking when dealing with white people. The Patriot Act and other unjust laws deprive our freedoms. The TSA abusive acts deprive our freedoms. The evil Drug War policies and the stop and frisk situation deprive our freedoms as well. Documented voter suppression in recent times deprive our human freedoms. We have the right to promote our civil liberties period. Also, slavery is still here in the world despite it being banned overtly & legally in America. Native Americans living today didn’t experience the colonists oppressing them, but they received compensation in recent years. The legacy of racism still exists in our time and black people have the right to oppose oppression (whether it's from police brutality to discrimination). Just because you don’t own a slave doesn’t make it a justification for you to refuse to expose racism or ignore white supremacy.

Injustices still reign in society like a 6 year old sister being killed by a crooked police officer in Detroit. Also, you cite the imperfections in other cities as a means to blame blacks collectively, which is ignorance. These problems are caused by socioeconomic problems, laissez faire economic problems (these economic policies increased the debt during the Bush years. What people in Chicago need isn't your way of privatization of all resources, but a holistic approach of both public and private services in making reforms in the city. You have to spend money in investments in fighting for change, not just individual initiatives), the Drug War, etc. not by the essence of black humanity. There are those in Chicago fighting for reforms and you discount or minimize their efforts. Also, many mostly Republican areas in the Deep South have poverty, record divorces, educational problems, meth addiction, and other problems. My people don’t make up most of the pedophiles, serial killers, corporate criminals, and imperialists in America. Guess which people? Also, many black people have made great accomplishments in life. Yet, they made it by working collectively too. You never made it on your own solitary. You needed assistance sometimes collectively. The power of the individual and the power of the collective are parts of the black African cultural tradition. My attitude has nothing to do with all evils in the world. Also, most black people voted for President Barack Obama because John McCain was seen as more reactionary. McCain talked about possibly bombing Iran. Most young people voted for the President in 2008 and most people voting for Republicans are mostly white people (that doesn't mean that all white people are racist or all black people are racist for mostly voting for the President). Many black people in Maryland voted for more non-black Democratic candidates before (and in places across America). I don’t worship Democrats and to assume otherwise is deception on your part. I cite the errors of the Democratic Dixiecrats in this very forum. I am an Independent politically.

My actions of believing in truth, opposing globalization, and rejecting austerity are clear. I refuted the Runaway Slave documentary many months ago in print. Your Tea Party rhetoric (and the Tea Party is funded by the Koch Brothers and other corporate interests) is fantasy since war mongering, massive austerity cuts, scapegoating, promoting the interests of the 1 percent, and xenophobia aren’t the essence of the Dream. The Dream is about us showing respect for humanity of every background and not to scapegoat black people collectively for every social ill in America. Runaway Slave won't expose how the New Deal decreased poverty, how the poverty rate was cut massively from 1945-1975 via progressive action, or how Social Security is a very successful program. It won't expose NSM 200 and it won't expose how Dr. King wanted a guaranteed annual income for all Americans. Your denial of white supremacy and the oppression against human beings in society is telling. I have a great perception of myself and my black people. I do believe that my people can achieve great things, but I also believe in exposing white supremacy at the same time. I believe in the Dream and I believe in justice. You can't have peace without justice.


Checkmate.

By Timothy


http://truthseeker2473.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-vice-presidential-debate-and-other.html



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Like always, some of you libertarian types are overly sensitive over a simple debate.
Your words shows your immaturity and you would not say those words to my face like a man, so cut the act out. Ad hominem attacks in the Net is really silly. Compassion is not garbage. It is holy, real, and it is part of a real human endeavor not a Charles Dickens view. I have no issue with printing debt free money immediately to assist the poor at all. The rest of your words are silliness. Eugenics have been advanced by reactionaries for years. Progressives have opposed eugenics before you were born. Austrian Economic leaders agreed with extremism for decades. Austrian economics leader Lew Rockwell is known for hating civil rights laws. Austrian economic leader Mises believed in gender inequality and the racial inferiority of those of color. He was wrong. Austrian economic leader Murray Rothard hated the poor and those on welfare. Some Austrian economic leaders are neo-Confederate. The Austrians' hatred of any general welfare is expressed by your words. Reactionaries and racists have advanced eugenics, debt money, unjust wars, technocratic aims, aristocracy, the Maafa, imperialism, etc. for centuries. I reject eugenics and other evils, so that guilt by association trick won't work on me.
Altruism is superior to debased hatred and compassion is better than sophomoric anger displayed by you. I am older, so I know how to describe my arguments without emotionalism and a petty, immature attitude. You are right that the poor should have a fair stake at budget negotiations and ought to have immediate economic relief. Yet, you subscribe to a scapegoating of those on welfare when economic inequality is one reason for our issues. We need a comprehensive solution in our situation. I am not a slave to anyone. I am not a slave to economic social Darwinism or a false view that free markets are God. God is God not a free market. The reality is that copyrights, legal protections, and other real regulations are in the market for a reason (to enhance competition and to protect the rights of all human beings). No group of men can understand all facets of the economy. Yet, human citizens can use policies to make the economy grow better, which has occurred in American history (via investments, eliminating fraud including waste, and having real economic solutions). I disagree with a privatized central bank. I do believed in Congress handling our economic affairs though as cited by the Constitution. I respect public investments as well.
The mistake of the some the FED's policies means that an alternative ought to be made, not have a pessimistic view of the world and just give up. Human beings have the right to fight and to achieve great things via effort, intelligence, and persistence.


-By Timothy (Me)