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Sunday, October 31, 2010
Tuesday, October 19, 2010
My Discussion with a Person on Zionism, the Holocaust, and other controversial topics
ssj is Available
ssj : hi
Me: hi
ssj : atlast we meet online
where u're from?!
Me: I am from Virginia.
Where are you from?
ssj : I'm from Egypt
did u just call urself Truth seeker or do u really seek to know the truth
Me: That name was a psuedoynm and all humans seek to know the truth as apart of our curious nature.
ssj : ya u're right
U knw no matter where and when u start u must knw that the truth is one so all who seek the truth will just end uo at the same place
end up*
Me: In a way that's true.
Learning the truth is a life long journey and as we get older, we become more accurate on how we determine information.
ssj : U see we've reached to a common point I always say wat u've just said
tell me where have u reached so far??
Me: What do you mean what I've reached so far/
ssj : i mean what kind falsified history u've found
like wwar 2
11 sept
Me: Well, people realize that WWII could of been avoid in many times. Hitler intentionally didn't want to massively invade Britain and some Royals sympathatized with the nazis.
September 11's official story hae been criticized even by the 9/11 Commission, so that is why some people want a new independent investigation of it.
ssj : do u knw about the Thule society??
Me: The thule society was invented by occultists. Hitler had links to it. Some of its rituals are related to the New Age doctrines on Atlantis, Aryan races, etc. They hated Jewish people and Communists.
ssj : good but read more .... sometimes they put conspiracy theories with fact in a way to misguide u so just read more about the thule society
they hate Humanity not just jews and communist
Me: Some disinformation exists in some conspiracy theories.
Yet, they hated Jews and Communists specifically (which includes humanity as you say).
I don't believe in special favoritism though.
ssj : u know John Judge??
Me: I heard about his literature, but I haven't heard about the man's life before.
ssj : ok u seem to have been through this for a long time
Me: Yes, I've studied on these subjects since 1997.
ssj : wow and how old are u?
Me: I'm young. I'm 26 and I will be 27 later on this year.
ssj : not younger than me lol
i'm 21
some people believe that the Holocaust didnt happen wat do u think?
Me: People have debated on the particular, but the Holocaust did exist.
One death isone too many.
Blacks, Serbs, Gypsies, Communists, political dissidents, and others died in the Holocaust not just Jewish people.
Millions ofpeople in the Holocaust even if you deny that any Jews were murdered in it.
ssj : I believe that it happened but not the way we were told and its not Millions of people who died but like 6000 that's wat i heard i haven't made a study myself
Me: Over 600,000 Serbs Gypsies, and Jews died in Yugoslavia alone during the Holocaust.
So, that is more than 6,000 people.
ssj : and i also learned that the worl war 2 along with the holocaust were all like planned so that the Zionist could make their state in Palestine
ya u're right ?
I'm makin my studies but for wat concerns where i live because here also we are told lies about most of our history
and wen I read and learn the truth and try to explain to them, they just consider me as crazy
Me: Israel was rapidly created because of the Holocaust.
That's true
We are lied about our history, but that doesn't justify Jewish people being slaughtered.
Also, some of the extreme policies in Israel can't be justified either.
ssj : there's Jewish and Zionist do u know the difference??
Me: Yes
Jewish people are Semitic people or people following Judaism as a religion.
Zionism is political philosophy.
Zionism teaches that Jews have the right to live in Israel and form a political government.
You can agree or disagree with this philosophy and this is what the Zionists believe in.
ssj : Zionist claim that they are Jewish and that they follow judaism
Me: Some do.
ssj : while Jews are the real Jews the followers of Moses and Ibrahem
Me: Some zionists are Gentiles and others are Jewish people.
ssj : Zionist take religion as a barrier
Me: Jews are Semites or followers of Judaism. Zionism is a political philosophy that uses religious terminology.
ssj : Yes that's it
Me: right
ssj : Zionist knows all the Religions and follow none
and they know exactly where is the Truth but they hide it
Me: Not all Zionists are monolithic. some are indeed wicked and extremists. Some just follow their political philosophy.
ssj : We are Victims of a Zionist regime
Me: Oh, you live in Egypt and of course you'll say that.
ssj : no lol
Me: In 21st century, more people are waking up, so more people desire resonable solutions without extremism.
ssj : Really we are here ruled by Zionist and U are in the states ruled by Zionist
Me: World power structure is complex. Many Pilgrim Society members, the Vatican/Jesuit network, etc. have influence in America too. Also, many Middle Eastern leaders have ties to the Order of St. Francis.
ssj : Do u know secret societies
the Cabal??
Me: I know about secret societies.
Many of them beleiving in human godhood and creating an Utopia.
ssj : they believe in the Anti christ and for them that's there God
Me: yes
ssj : human godhood is something the fabricated but they dont believe in it just another conspiracy theory
like i told they understand all the religions so well and they've even invented some just to seperate people
Me: I disagree with that.
. Manly P Hall and oh have wrote about agreeing with human goodhood.
That's conspriacy fact not fiction at all. Of course, human godhood is an impossibility.
ssj : They have Fabricated religions and human Godhood is one of them and it has its own believers
and everyone is so convinced with his religion so he would call others to it
Me: There are unified moral principles and there are moral absolutes.
True religion reflects those concepts.
ssj : Yes that's true but wat does that have to do with wat i said ??
The Goal of the Zionist is to rule the world and take hold of world's economy and till now i believe they Rule most of the Arab countries like saudi arabia , egypt , jordan , UAE and more and they also rule most of Europe and Africa and USA
Me: I expose more than Zionism.
The Pilgrim Society the Bilderbergers, and the Vatican/Jesuit network are more powerful than the Zionists.
To only expose Zionism is only showing part of the puzzle. Also, the Black Nobility bloodlines have existed before Zionism existed.
Many Zionist leaders are apart of papal Knighthoods.
ssj : A Zionist won't tell u he is a Zionist he might be a christian a jew a muslim just anything
Me: What is the disinformation now?
Many Zionists have different religious cloaks, but it's a fact that Zionism is under the Pilgrim Society and the Vatican network.
The Pilgrim Society is more secret and more taboo to expose than the Zionists are.
Even though all nefarious groups ought to be exposed.
ssj : i believe that the Zionist made the Pilgrim society and the Vatican/jesuit network
Me: I don't agree with you on that point at all.
Constantine existed before Herzl.
So, Also the black nobility bloodlines carved up the Middle East to create tensions among Jews and Arabs.
You know this.
ssj : no i have no idea
did u write any articles or something i can read??
Me: I write articles all of the time in my blog
You can put TruthSeeker24 in google to see my articles.
ssj : ok thank u
its good to knw u
Me: right.
I have to go.
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Responses from folks in Bush Revealed FOrum
Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:15
128.82.56.83
Watchman: This discussion board is about Bush, not Reagan. Beside that, I'll not let this board be used to smear the reputation of the second best President of the 20th Century (behind Teddy).
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Preacher Bruce Evan Murch
Response: Yes, this is about Bush Watchman. Reagan being a member of the Bohemian Grove is a fact. Reagan passing an abortion law in '67 is a fact , he worked for GE is a fact, GE funded Hitler is a fact, and Reagan having many evil policies and being an honorary Freemason in '88 is a fact. That's documentated and isn't a smear. You need to get out of your Left/Right paradigm and see the real picture. Bush is wrong on many issues just like Reagan. I'm a warrior for the truth and don't back down to people trying to call me a smearer. It's silly for you to deny these facts.
By TruthSeeker24.
The truthseeker Eleazar: I won't post any of my Reagan exposes here, since this is a Bush expose forum, but you should know better. Reagan was one of the NWO boys just like Bush and Clinton. His conservatism was 90% false IMAGE (as opposed to Bush's 95%).
If you need proof, I can email it.
Also, Teddy was only the 2nd best of the century. Cal Coolidge was the best.
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Steadfastly slinging the Sword,
Eleazar
2 Sam 23:10 He arose, and smote the Philistines until his hand was weary, and his hand clave unto the sword: and the LORD wrought a great victory that day
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What is the Matrix? The Matrix is Satan’s world. Just because sinfulness is all around us, doesn’t mean that we should accept it. We ought to speak our minds and act for real change and the true development of ourselves lies with our activity. God doesn’t move with lazy people, but with committed and believing human beings. The Matrix movie series incorporates Gnosticism. The films of “The Matrix”, “The Matrix Reloaded”, etc. express this very well. The rebels of Zion (an underground base of the real physical world) and Neo trying to find true reality mimics the New Age Movement and Gnosticism (from the Greek word gnosis meaning knowledge). Gnosticism is related to many occult philosophies. The early Gnostics believed that salvation and supernatural power was achieved by receiving esoteric knowledge (i.e. a secret gnosis, not just ordinary knowledge). They viewed the rest of the world as held captive to evil, while they were the enlightened remnant finding spiritual freedom and transcendence in secret wisdom.
God’s Word perfectly said that to not be hidden in understanding him and Jesus Christ said “I said nothing in secret.” The Word of God is apparent not hidden; therefore anyone has the possibility to understand the One True God without hidden “knowledge.” Hidden knowledge (according to them) is the key to understanding the world. The Gnostics denied that Christ came to Earth as a fleshy man, but in the appearance of a hologram. 2 John 1:7 rebuts this claim and John 1:1-18. To deny that Christ came in the flesh is to have the spirit of the Antichrist. They also view the spiritual as always good and the physical always evil when Jesus Christ and the New Jerusalem are physical and they are good. In the first Matrix film, Neo knows Kung Fu with supernatural powers, not embracing Christian ideals. It’s about occult empowerment. Neo also meets the female oracle. The oracle in the times of the ancients was a spiritual medium for false gods in Greek mythology. Of course, Deuteronomy forbids contacting mediums as an abomination. The oracle gives Neo ambiguous answers. Another Gnostic and modern culture tenet is that feel good experiences can be more important than reality. According to “The Words with Dictionary of the Occult”, Gnosticism originated from ancient Babylon involving religion feelings. Gnosticism like the Matrix defies logic and simple explanation, but appeals to human feelings.
People accept it even if they can’t define it. Occult religious feelings are more important to the Elite than facts. Ritual sex (as shown in Matrix Reloaded) was in pagan civilizations, Gnosticism, and today in this country as well. Christian Berit Kjos’ article exposed the Matrix Triology films as mocking God’s truth, while embracing Gnostic/occult symbolism. Even Monica Belluci’s [the pornographer from Mel Gibson’s movie of the “The Passion of the Christ”] role as wife of “The Merovingian” is definitely related to the Illuminati and it is so in your face, that it’s there. The Matrix series have plug ins and microchips in it. The film is all about the globalist agenda in controlling man’s mind into a Matrix and forcing mankind to accept this present world’s control, instead of really freeing our minds, opposing all occult Secret Societies, resisting the biometric system, and following the One True God. 
Fritz Spingmeier mentioned the Merovingian bloodline as the 13th Illuminati bloodline. Their well-known symbols are the Knight Templar’s red cross, the fluer-de-lis, bees, the bear, etc. Prescott Bush, George H. W. Bush, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Theodore Roosevelt, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, and many other prominent figures of history are all in this bloodlines as well. Some in British royalty are related to the Merovingians like Prince Charles and even Dan Quayle possessing high popularity. Fritz Springmeier also wrote that the top leadership of the Mormons (LDS & RLDS) are all related to the descendants of the Merovingians. Even Brigham Young (the founder of Mormonism) was a Freemason and practiced magic. Sibil Brigham was his grandmother and Sibyls were the occult “prophetesses” of the ancient world. The Merovingian bee symbol is also the logo of the Mormon church and the state of Utah. Many Bible scholars and other researchers of Mormonism (believing that man can achieve godhood which is unscriptural) have pointed out that Joseph Smith and many Mormon leaders were well-known Freemasons as well. Freemasonry is still wrong and not of God. Calling any human with veneration or adoration for an deceptive group is still wrong. Calling a man Master is still a violation of Matthew. Calling the Lodge not Christ the cornerstone is still wrong. Having bloody oaths with the Lord's name taken in vain plus calling out murder (even if it's symbolic and not literal) is still evil. Having a brotherhood of infidels is still innappropriate and tons of other points makes Masonry as having contradictions in their group.
According to David Icke, the Windsor and Mountbatten bloodlines of the UK were German bloodlines earlier known as the House of Saxe-Corburg Gotha and the Battenbergs. It's a well known fact that the Windsor family supported the Nazis and anglicized their names during WWII for public relations. American and British Freemasonry (Henry Ford, Schact, Thomas Watson, etc.) were known as to have supported Nazism as proven by John Daniel’s research. Even O.T.O. members admitted that their 1902 created organization have Freemasonic influences. English Freemasonry created the Quatour Coronati Lodge of Masonic Research in 1886 and many Masons back then supported the rebuilding of Solomon’s Temple (reported by Watch Unto Prayer Ministries).
Freemason George Bulver-Lytton (1803-1873) was the godfather of Nazi dogma. Lytton was the Grand Patron of the Societas Roscruciana in Anglia. His book Vril: The Power of the Coming Race inspired Madame Blavastky (a Theosophical Society member like Hitler and even Gandhi). Both Blavastky and Richard Wagner (an OTO member) had ideals that influenced Hitler’s perspective in Karma, root races, Eastern mysticism, etc.
As long as I have breath, I will expose the Abortion Holocaust, the population control agenda (when Africa isn’t seeing radical population growth and Europe is decreasing in its population), and eugenics. Many of the Rockefellers, Harrimans, Bushes, Duponts, and other evil people (who were pro-segregration, pro-abortion, pro-Hitler, and some were in the dark, evil Secret Societies of the Skulls and Bones and Thule Society) who tried to exterminate people back then are still here trying to have massive depopulation and a global government system. Billionares like Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, and Ted Turner are all promoters of abortion, sterilization, and population control now. Life is so debased that a Chinese cosmetics company is using skin harvested from the corpses of executed convicts to develop beauty products for sale in Europe. How sick and evil.
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Preacher Bruce Evan Murch
Response: Yes, this is about Bush Watchman. Reagan being a member of the Bohemian Grove is a fact. Reagan passing an abortion law in '67 is a fact , he worked for GE is a fact, GE funded Hitler is a fact, and Reagan having many evil policies and being an honorary Freemason in '88 is a fact. That's documentated and isn't a smear. You need to get out of your Left/Right paradigm and see the real picture. Bush is wrong on many issues just like Reagan. I'm a warrior for the truth and don't back down to people trying to call me a smearer. It's silly for you to deny these facts.
By TruthSeeker24.
The truthseeker Eleazar: I won't post any of my Reagan exposes here, since this is a Bush expose forum, but you should know better. Reagan was one of the NWO boys just like Bush and Clinton. His conservatism was 90% false IMAGE (as opposed to Bush's 95%).
If you need proof, I can email it.
Also, Teddy was only the 2nd best of the century. Cal Coolidge was the best.
_________________
Steadfastly slinging the Sword,
Eleazar
2 Sam 23:10 He arose, and smote the Philistines until his hand was weary, and his hand clave unto the sword: and the LORD wrought a great victory that day
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Escaping the Matrix (Pure
Truth)
What is the Matrix? The Matrix is Satan’s world. Just because sinfulness is all around us, doesn’t mean that we should accept it. We ought to speak our minds and act for real change and the true development of ourselves lies with our activity. God doesn’t move with lazy people, but with committed and believing human beings. The Matrix movie series incorporates Gnosticism. The films of “The Matrix”, “The Matrix Reloaded”, etc. express this very well. The rebels of Zion (an underground base of the real physical world) and Neo trying to find true reality mimics the New Age Movement and Gnosticism (from the Greek word gnosis meaning knowledge). Gnosticism is related to many occult philosophies. The early Gnostics believed that salvation and supernatural power was achieved by receiving esoteric knowledge (i.e. a secret gnosis, not just ordinary knowledge). They viewed the rest of the world as held captive to evil, while they were the enlightened remnant finding spiritual freedom and transcendence in secret wisdom.
God’s Word perfectly said that to not be hidden in understanding him and Jesus Christ said “I said nothing in secret.” The Word of God is apparent not hidden; therefore anyone has the possibility to understand the One True God without hidden “knowledge.” Hidden knowledge (according to them) is the key to understanding the world. The Gnostics denied that Christ came to Earth as a fleshy man, but in the appearance of a hologram. 2 John 1:7 rebuts this claim and John 1:1-18. To deny that Christ came in the flesh is to have the spirit of the Antichrist. They also view the spiritual as always good and the physical always evil when Jesus Christ and the New Jerusalem are physical and they are good. In the first Matrix film, Neo knows Kung Fu with supernatural powers, not embracing Christian ideals. It’s about occult empowerment. Neo also meets the female oracle. The oracle in the times of the ancients was a spiritual medium for false gods in Greek mythology. Of course, Deuteronomy forbids contacting mediums as an abomination. The oracle gives Neo ambiguous answers. Another Gnostic and modern culture tenet is that feel good experiences can be more important than reality. According to “The Words with Dictionary of the Occult”, Gnosticism originated from ancient Babylon involving religion feelings. Gnosticism like the Matrix defies logic and simple explanation, but appeals to human feelings.
People accept it even if they can’t define it. Occult religious feelings are more important to the Elite than facts. Ritual sex (as shown in Matrix Reloaded) was in pagan civilizations, Gnosticism, and today in this country as well. Christian Berit Kjos’ article exposed the Matrix Triology films as mocking God’s truth, while embracing Gnostic/occult symbolism. Even Monica Belluci’s [the pornographer from Mel Gibson’s movie of the “The Passion of the Christ”] role as wife of “The Merovingian” is definitely related to the Illuminati and it is so in your face, that it’s there. The Matrix series have plug ins and microchips in it. The film is all about the globalist agenda in controlling man’s mind into a Matrix and forcing mankind to accept this present world’s control, instead of really freeing our minds, opposing all occult Secret Societies, resisting the biometric system, and following the One True God.
Fritz Spingmeier mentioned the Merovingian bloodline as the 13th Illuminati bloodline. Their well-known symbols are the Knight Templar’s red cross, the fluer-de-lis, bees, the bear, etc. Prescott Bush, George H. W. Bush, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Theodore Roosevelt, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, and many other prominent figures of history are all in this bloodlines as well. Some in British royalty are related to the Merovingians like Prince Charles and even Dan Quayle possessing high popularity. Fritz Springmeier also wrote that the top leadership of the Mormons (LDS & RLDS) are all related to the descendants of the Merovingians. Even Brigham Young (the founder of Mormonism) was a Freemason and practiced magic. Sibil Brigham was his grandmother and Sibyls were the occult “prophetesses” of the ancient world. The Merovingian bee symbol is also the logo of the Mormon church and the state of Utah. Many Bible scholars and other researchers of Mormonism (believing that man can achieve godhood which is unscriptural) have pointed out that Joseph Smith and many Mormon leaders were well-known Freemasons as well. Freemasonry is still wrong and not of God. Calling any human with veneration or adoration for an deceptive group is still wrong. Calling a man Master is still a violation of Matthew. Calling the Lodge not Christ the cornerstone is still wrong. Having bloody oaths with the Lord's name taken in vain plus calling out murder (even if it's symbolic and not literal) is still evil. Having a brotherhood of infidels is still innappropriate and tons of other points makes Masonry as having contradictions in their group.
According to David Icke, the Windsor and Mountbatten bloodlines of the UK were German bloodlines earlier known as the House of Saxe-Corburg Gotha and the Battenbergs. It's a well known fact that the Windsor family supported the Nazis and anglicized their names during WWII for public relations. American and British Freemasonry (Henry Ford, Schact, Thomas Watson, etc.) were known as to have supported Nazism as proven by John Daniel’s research. Even O.T.O. members admitted that their 1902 created organization have Freemasonic influences. English Freemasonry created the Quatour Coronati Lodge of Masonic Research in 1886 and many Masons back then supported the rebuilding of Solomon’s Temple (reported by Watch Unto Prayer Ministries).
Freemason George Bulver-Lytton (1803-1873) was the godfather of Nazi dogma. Lytton was the Grand Patron of the Societas Roscruciana in Anglia. His book Vril: The Power of the Coming Race inspired Madame Blavastky (a Theosophical Society member like Hitler and even Gandhi). Both Blavastky and Richard Wagner (an OTO member) had ideals that influenced Hitler’s perspective in Karma, root races, Eastern mysticism, etc.
As long as I have breath, I will expose the Abortion Holocaust, the population control agenda (when Africa isn’t seeing radical population growth and Europe is decreasing in its population), and eugenics. Many of the Rockefellers, Harrimans, Bushes, Duponts, and other evil people (who were pro-segregration, pro-abortion, pro-Hitler, and some were in the dark, evil Secret Societies of the Skulls and Bones and Thule Society) who tried to exterminate people back then are still here trying to have massive depopulation and a global government system. Billionares like Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, and Ted Turner are all promoters of abortion, sterilization, and population control now. Life is so debased that a Chinese cosmetics company is using skin harvested from the corpses of executed convicts to develop beauty products for sale in Europe. How sick and evil.
By Timothy
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